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IMHO, all plugins should be free of charge. That's a contribution for the community. Plugin with a price tag isn't.

Good idea!

Why limit this to PlugIns?
Why not make everything free of charge, the world would be a so much better place then.

I assume that Kulju's reasoning behind this is that profile contributors don't get paid for their sometimes hundered of hours of work of typing down cast lists, so why should plugin writers?

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Since I am aware of only one fee-based plugin, this seems to be quite a stir for something of such little consequence. All the most popular and useful plugins are free.

I didn't say I agree with him...

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Quoting DJ Doena:

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I assume that Kulju's reasoning behind this is that profile contributors don't get paid for their sometimes hundered of hours of work of typing down cast lists, so why should plugin writers?

That was my point, not trolling. I've payed for plugins, and I'm fine with it, but I don't count it as "contributing". We don't get payed for contributing for db, helpfull forum activity, beta testing etc.

Speaking of which, I would have no problem paying for highly accurate audited profiles that are protected from updates by the general population.

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Speaking of which, I would have no problem paying for highly accurate audited profiles that are protected from updates by the general population.

I once had the idea to put completely audited cast and crew sections of a movie into a Wiki system, so any user can copy it down into his locality/variant profile.

I know that there is the fully audited thread, problem is that you can't really search in it and also you need to load the profile into your collection to copy the data.

I didn't propose the Wiki idea because even with a fully audited profile the data can be in flux (new common name for B and C cast, new need for a birth year because there's also a pr0n actor with the same name), so a fixed copy of the cast/crew XML sadly isn't a workable idea.

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I thought we had a wiki-system.

When I wrote Wiki I meant more in the sense of "one sets of credits per movie, fully audited" with maybe a variant for Special Editions.

Not X sets of credits in Y variants and Z locations where you can't easily recognize which one was actually fully audited, which ones are half-assed and which ones are simply copies of the IMDb list.

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Why wouldn't every user that paid Invelos the fee, and abides by all other rules, deserve the benefits advertised for the program?

In what way it is? If people don't contribute to the database they have no right to complaint about it. They can suggest improvment on the program sure, but if it's about the database (something they don't care about enough to add value to it) they can STFU and sit on their lazy ass.

In what way don't I have the right to complain about the DB? And in what way do you have the right to complain about the program, do you also contribute to that programming? As you (maybe) I also paid for the whole package, meaning program and he promise of an ever growing database, and I didn't sign an agreement, that I need to contribute the data.

Als I do find it presumptuous to make a statement, that you do know what the users want. Why, only because you contribute to the DB? And most of all, it's very presumptuous to make a statement as if you know me, to claim what I should and shouldn't know. You couldn't be more wrong, you don't know me and you never will. Because you are not one of them, I would like to call a friend and you will never get that close.
And also if you know that well what users want, then please do tell, as it is said, in this topic, that it will come around regulary. In mine opinion it is that people simply don't share you view.

That said. Furthermore, if people don't read the meaning about this, then it's up to them. If they still keep seeig me wanting to upload the IMDB (or any other) data into your perfect database, then read again, because it has being said again and again, that this is not my intend and the intend is that it will keep your DB cleaner.

Also, don't speak about a plug-in when it's an external program or any external tool is to be used to achive that what I request for. For such thing is not a plugin but a tool.

And if you care, that the actor is in right order as you see on the screen, so be it, I don't, that is your prerogative as it is mine not to. But I guess, you don't see it like so, because it's a different view than yours is.

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Now, if you want to call this attitude 'holier than thou' then so be it. I don't care what any DVDP user thinks about my views or opinions. I just want them to care about our database!

Don't get me wrong in what I will say, I don't want to be disrespectfull. But why should I care about your database, I say yours, becaus for me, this one is incomplete. I do respect your idea and meaning of how your database should look like, but that is not my view. For I joined and bought DVD Profiler, so I don't need to type all the data by myself and still could have access to all the movie information that there are and I surely do like the program itself. And I don't care that much about that DVD part, those missing items, that I need, I can fill in myself. As the ad was and is saying an still growing database, and I'm sorry to say, but indeed, it is growing but it is growing slower and slower and lesser and lesser. And I think I'm entitled to address this isseu, even if I don't contribute.

You make very good points.  However, I have a few questions.  On the product page it says that the database was/is created by dedicated users worldwide.  If you looked at this you knew that the database was "user" created.  If this was going to be a problem for you after you previewed the software, why did you buy it, with its obvious shortcomings?  Datascraping can be good, but in most cases when it come to movies it is bad.  Most databases are incomplete and some are just completely wrong.  While it is true that our database is incomplete, I would say, it is likely more complete than most others out there.  You have 4000 DVDs and have NEVER contributed, why?  If you contributed even partial profiles, when you added them to your local database, the common database would be more complete.  I am also curious of what region or types of films you are entering that so many are missing from the database.  I am part of the 2K club, granted only half of what you have, but the majority of my mainstream films have been in the database.  When I have found films missing I have simply contributed.  Finally, why should you care about "my" database?  Simply put, because you are a member of this community it is "your" database too.

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It is very rare in that a title I get isn't already in the database. Many times the profiles need work... but they are almost always there. And when they are not I am quick to put at least a partial profile up for them.

That is the point I was trying to make...