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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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Paul:

Are you going to flame-bait as well!!!!!!!!!! This topic has been discused numerous times, and I believe, I could be wrong that there has been a poll on it. Do we really need to go through all of this every few weeks or months.? THAT is my point.

Skip


No, we don't NEED to.  Participation in this, and any other topic, is a choice.  If you don't want to go throught all of this every few weeks or months, don't read the posts.  But please, quit trying to stop the rest of us, who have chosen to go through every few weeks or months, from making that choice for ourselves.

Most of us welcome a new perspective...which is all this is.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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Paul:

Are you going to flame-bait as well!!!!!!!!!! This topic has been discused numerous times, and I believe, I could be wrong that there has been a poll on it. Do we really need to go through all of this every few weeks or months.? THAT is my point.

Skip


No, we don't NEED to.  Participation in this, and any other topic, is a choice.  If you don't want to go throught all of this every few weeks or months, don't read the posts.  But please, quit trying to stop the rest of us, who have chosen to go through every few weeks or months, from making that choice for ourselves.

Most of us welcome a new perspective...which is all this is.



If that were truly the case - that its a new perspective - that would be one thing.  But its the same old gorp recycled and rehashed every couple of weeks or months because apparently Ken doesn't update the rules fast enough to suit some people.  Either that, or the first couple of times the poll didn't end up the way they expected it to, so its one more go around.  Its called cognitive dissonance when you keep doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different answer each time even though the answer is always the same.

If you want to keep playing that game, be my guest, but don't blame us for getting tired of the same old same old.
John

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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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Paul:

Are you going to flame-bait as well!!!!!!!!!! This topic has been discused numerous times, and I believe, I could be wrong that there has been a poll on it. Do we really need to go through all of this every few weeks or months.? THAT is my point.

Skip


No, we don't NEED to.  Participation in this, and any other topic, is a choice.  If you don't want to go throught all of this every few weeks or months, don't read the posts.  But please, quit trying to stop the rest of us, who have chosen to go through every few weeks or months, from making that choice for ourselves.

Most of us welcome a new perspective...which is all this is.



If that were truly the case - that its a new perspective - that would be one thing.  But its the same old gorp recycled and rehashed every couple of weeks or months because apparently Ken doesn't update the rules fast enough to suit some people.  Either that, or the first couple of times the poll didn't end up the way they expected it to, so its one more go around.  Its called cognitive dissonance when you keep doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different answer each time even though the answer is always the same.


You missed another, quite obvious, alternative.  Perhaps it is a new user that doesn't know about the polls or the potential rule changes.  Just because you don't see it as coming from a new perspective doesn't mean it isn't.  All it means is your perspective has remainded the same.

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If you want to keep playing that game, be my guest, but don't blame us for getting tired of the same old same old.


I am not blaming you for getting tired of it.  As I said, if you are tired of it don't participate in the discussion.  What gets on my nerves, and it would seem quite a few other's nerves, is when you try ans quash the discussion simply because you don't want to deal with it.

To paraphrase you, who the hell died and made you the topic master?
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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Paul:

Are you going to flame-bait as well!!!!!!!!!! This topic has been discused numerous times, and I believe, I could be wrong that there has been a poll on it. Do we really need to go through all of this every few weeks or months.? THAT is my point.

Skip


No, we don't NEED to.  Participation in this, and any other topic, is a choice.  If you don't want to go throught all of this every few weeks or months, don't read the posts.  But please, quit trying to stop the rest of us, who have chosen to go through every few weeks or months, from making that choice for ourselves.

Most of us welcome a new perspective...which is all this is.



If that were truly the case - that its a new perspective - that would be one thing.  But its the same old gorp recycled and rehashed every couple of weeks or months because apparently Ken doesn't update the rules fast enough to suit some people.  Either that, or the first couple of times the poll didn't end up the way they expected it to, so its one more go around.  Its called cognitive dissonance when you keep doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different answer each time even though the answer is always the same.


You missed another, quite obvious, alternative.  Perhaps it is a new user that doesn't know about the polls or the potential rule changes.  Just because you don't see it as coming from a new perspective doesn't mean it isn't.  All it means is your perspective has remainded the same.

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If you want to keep playing that game, be my guest, but don't blame us for getting tired of the same old same old.


I am not blaming you for getting tired of it.  As I said, if you are tired of it don't participate in the discussion.  What gets on my nerves, and it would seem quite a few other's nerves, is when you try ans quash the discussion simply because you don't want to deal with it.

To paraphrase you, who the hell died and made you the topic master?


Oh, please.  You and I both know that 98% of the people in this forum are regulars, and that includes the lurkers.  We've got groups that support or don't support certain approaches, and the players are always the same people on each of the sides.  Once and awhile, we get a newbie.  So, if he asks, explain things to him, but we don't need to rehash this stuff every few weeks or months just because some newbie asks a question -- which they probably could've answered on their own anyway if they had the motivation to do a little digging on their own.

I'm certainly not trying to stifle legit discussions, but beating a dead horse until it can't even be recognized as a horse is just plain stupid.  Your time is worth more than that, so is mine, and so is that of everybody else, including the newbies.  I might also remind you that even when these polls and discussions result in a consensus it only lasts until it becomes inconvenient for somebody down the road. Then all of a sudden, we have to go through it all over again and have a big argument about how it was already decided and there was a consensus and so on and so forth.
John

"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
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Please don't derail this thread. It's NOT a discussion about Contribution Rules. It's a poll on a Feature Request to have two title fields: Cover Title and Screen Title, even only locally.
Please note this is the Feature Requests forum, not the Contribution Discussion forum. If you are not interested in this thread as it meant to be, please ignore it.
-- Enry
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Please don't derail this thread. It's NOT a discussion about Contribution Rules. It's a poll on a Feature Request to have two title fields: Cover Title and Screen Title, even only locally.
Please note this is the Feature Requests forum, not the Contribution Discussion forum. If you are not interested in this thread as it meant to be, please ignore it.



I think we've already got that though maybe by different field names.  But I think my point was a legitimate one.  Is it REALLY necessary to rehash this stuff over and over again, just because some newbie asks the same question every few months?  Instead of the rehash, why not create a FAQ and put the results of all these polls and the ensuing discussions into a file they can find and read?  Make it easy on everybody - or is that too much to ask? 
John

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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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Oh, please.  You and I both know that 98% of the people in this forum are regulars, and that includes the lurkers.  We've got groups that support or don't support certain approaches, and the players are always the same people on each of the sides.  Once and awhile, we get a newbie.  So, if he asks, explain things to him, but we don't need to rehash this stuff every few weeks or months just because some newbie asks a question -- which they probably could've answered on their own anyway if they had the motivation to do a little digging on their own.


Please don't presume to tell me what I know.  This topic was started by a newbie.  You are correct, and I already said this twice now, we don't need to rehash this stuff every few weeks or months.  We can, however, choose to.  If you don't want to participate, don't.  It sure seems fairly simple to me.

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I'm certainly not trying to stifle legit discussions, but beating a dead horse until it can't even be recognized as a horse is just plain stupid.  Your time is worth more than that, so is mine, and so is that of everybody else, including the newbies.  I might also remind you that even when these polls and discussions result in a consensus it only lasts until it becomes inconvenient for somebody down the road. Then all of a sudden, we have to go through it all over again and have a big argument about how it was already decided and there was a consensus and so on and so forth.


Who the hell died and made you master of what is and isn't legit?  My time is worth exactly what I decide it is worth.  If I decide to spend it on these topics, who the hell are you to say I can't?  Again, it seems pretty simple.  If you don't want to participate, don't.  But let the rest of us spend our time the way we want.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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Is it REALLY necessary to rehash this stuff over and over again, just because some newbie asks the same question every few months?

Anyone is allowed to ask. No one is required to comment.
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Unicus,

It's probably time for you to block Rifter, like others who have chosen not to expose themselves to his rantings.
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My vote:

1) DVD Title: What's on the cover.
2) Movie Title: What comes in the opening credits.
3) Original Title: The title of the movie from the country were it was made.
4) International English Title: The title under which it is known international.

If we have an italian or japanese movie on a german DVD there is need for at least 1), 3) and 4)

2) is sometimes identical to 1) and sometimes to 3)
Karsten
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My vote:

1) DVD Title: What's on the cover.
2) Movie Title: What comes in the opening credits.
3) Original Title: The title of the movie from the country were it was made.
4) International English Title: The title under which it is known international.

If we have an italian or japanese movie on a german DVD there is need for at least 1), 3) and 4)

2) is sometimes identical to 1) and sometimes to 3)


What is the source for #4?
Hal
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Please don't derail this thread. It's NOT a discussion about Contribution Rules. It's a poll on a Feature Request to have two title fields: Cover Title and Screen Title, even only locally.
Please note this is the Feature Requests forum, not the Contribution Discussion forum. If you are not interested in this thread as it meant to be, please ignore it.


I think we've already got that though maybe by different field names. 


That workaround doesn't fit foreign films, though, because you need the 'Original Title' field for... guess what? the Original Title. 

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But I think my point was a legitimate one.  Is it REALLY necessary to rehash this stuff over and over again, just because some newbie asks the same question every few months?  Instead of the rehash, why not create a FAQ and put the results of all these polls and the ensuing discussions into a file they can find and read?  Make it easy on everybody - or is that too much to ask? 


A FAQ would be most helpful. I see a lot of rehashing here (not only by us newbs, by the way).   
Problem is, who decides what the "right" answers are? 
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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Problem is, who decides what the "right" answers are? 


Ken. 
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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Ken. 


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What is the source for #4?
IMDb

Nay, just kidding.

To be honest, I've no idea where such info would be listed. From where exactly do we get the original title?

Locally(!) I would indeed use IMDb.
Karsten
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Unicus,

It's probably time for you to block Rifter, like others who have chosen not to expose themselves to his rantings.


Why is that, Hal?  Because I dared to have an opinion and defend it?  Before you accuse others of 'rantings', you should make sure your own house is in order.
John

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