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What is a Stage Name? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 5,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
Sheeesh, why is everybody tryting to warp the program to fit their view of things.
Skip I am not! I am asking for a reasonable definition, which has yet to be provided, by the rules, you, or anyone. I want to use the program by the rules. Yet, even you must admit that this rule is nebulous at best. Why does asking for a simple, easy to understand definition mean I'm trying to warp the program? Get over yourself, and try, just this once, being helpful. | | | If it wasn't for bad taste, I wouldn't have no taste at all.
Cliff |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | If you are referring to making John Wayne or many other actors Stage Names, NO. Otherwise what you are asking is not unreasonable, I have given you the background and the kind oif things which were considered Stage Names. So...how to define those. Good luck, Jim.  If you are caught or killed the secretary will disavow any knowledge of your actions. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting VibroCount: Quote:
I think a stage name is a stage name. No one here is willing to define a real difference between Cher, John Wayne, and The Rock. None are their birth names. All were taken for reasons different, but the effect was the same. To honor one with "stage name" while ignoring the others is based on an opinion not given within the rules. How many times have you argued that we need to separate fact from opinion when applying the rules to submissions? I gave a rather clear definition of the difference, or are you just ignoring what I said? | | | John
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| | Registered: May 9, 2007 |  Posts: 1,536 |
| | Posted: | | | | I trust this is not moving in the direction of "Marion//Morrison" Credited As "John Wayne//"...  | | | | Hans |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rifter: Quote:
... are you just ignoring what I said? I work very hard at ignoring much of what you say. Life is easier this way. | | | If it wasn't for bad taste, I wouldn't have no taste at all.
Cliff |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rifter: Quote:
Quoting VibroCount:
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I think a stage name is a stage name. No one here is willing to define a real difference between Cher, John Wayne, and The Rock. None are their birth names. All were taken for reasons different, but the effect was the same. To honor one with "stage name" while ignoring the others is based on an opinion not given within the rules. How many times have you argued that we need to separate fact from opinion when applying the rules to submissions?
I gave a rather clear definition of the difference, or are you just ignoring what I said? You did not give a clear definition as your definition was wrong. I looked up the phrase and every definition was the same... A stage name, also called a screen name, is a pseudonym used by performers and entertainers such as actors, comedians, musicians, djs, clowns, and professional wrestlers.Ordinary people do not have 'stage names'. It is limited to performers and entertainers. That means 'John Wayne' is a stage name. The ONLY difference between 'John Wayne' and 'Ice T' is one looks like a regular name and the other does not. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
(...) Stage names were something entirely different and something as I said we could all identify but not define. This is DVDProfiler we apply definitons that fit the program,(...) How can you apply a definition which you were not able to make to begin with? |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting VibroCount: Quote:
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... are you just ignoring what I said?
I work very hard at ignoring much of what you say. Life is easier this way. Well, aren't you special. And your opinion is better than mine exactly how? Get over yourself, man. | | | John
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rifter: Quote:
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... are you just ignoring what I said?
I work very hard at ignoring much of what you say. Life is easier this way.
Well, aren't you special. And your opinion is better than mine exactly how? Get over yourself, man. As soon as you gain a semblance of a sense of humor.  We are of differing opinions, John. On everything. We agree on absolutely nothing. The fact that we might be of the same species is open for discussion. Having said that, I respect you the right to your opinion. It's okay. If I ignore it, my blood pressure doesn't rise, and I might feel better in the long run. If I become involved or think about your attitudes, I fear for humankind's very existence. It's just a joke, son. See the wink? | | | If it wasn't for bad taste, I wouldn't have no taste at all.
Cliff |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | LOL, OK Foghorn. You made it too easy, my friend Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,796 |
| | Posted: | | | | I think the origin of the practice of "stage naming" was to anglicize foreign names, fit the name on the
marquee, or the name was similar to another entertainer. Studios, agents, or the individual would select
the names. Many actors did not even know what or that their name had been changed until they went
to pick up their pay check. It would seem to me that if a person legally changed their name to the stage name then it is no longer a stage name. Then you also have consider names changed as a result of marriage. | | | We don't need stinkin' IMDB's errors, we make our own.
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| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 4,678 |
| | Posted: | | | | A single name field would eliminate all uncertainties as to how to parse a name. Did I ever mention that I would prefer a signle name field...? In lieu of that, I guess we need a Profiler specific definition. While John Wayne may be a stage name, I don't think very many of us would want to have it parsed John Wayne//. "If it looks like a stage name..." is a rather vague description, but it probably reflects what Ken intended and what the majority would like. So I would probably say "If it mimics a real name (first name, possible middle name(s) and a last name), enter it as such, otherwise enter it all in the first name field". I'm sure we will still have cases that may be difficult to decide, but it's the best I can think of. If somebody has a better definition, I'm open for suggestions. | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
Gunnar |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | You are along with many people overtinking this, gunnar. As i have said before, I don't have problems that you and so many others seem to have. with any aspect of the rules and i do not go running looking for a way to leverage this or that. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Gadgeteer: Quote:
The Rules say:
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If an actor name is only a first name or stage name enter it entirely in the first name field. Examples are Cher, Madonna, Cedric the Entertainer & Queen Latifah.
I would like to see if we can up with a definition of what makes a "Stage Name" for DVD Pro purposes to help determine correct parsing of names to acheive the 'common name'.
I'm wondering why do you want this definition? Have you had any problems with contributions with this issue? If you really want one, I'd agree with the person that says any name that doesn't resemble or mimic a real name. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 519 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
Quoting Gadgeteer:
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The Rules say:
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If an actor name is only a first name or stage name enter it entirely in the first name field. Examples are Cher, Madonna, Cedric the Entertainer & Queen Latifah.
I would like to see if we can up with a definition of what makes a "Stage Name" for DVD Pro purposes to help determine correct parsing of names to acheive the 'common name'.
I'm wondering why do you want this definition? Have you had any problems with contributions with this issue? If you really want one, I'd agree with the person that says any name that doesn't resemble or mimic a real name. Not yet. I just thought it would make the rules a little clearer if we could come up with something. It's just part of my efforts to make them less subjective. | | | | Stuart | | | | Last edited: by Gadgeteer |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Making the rules clearer? Spoilsport!   |
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