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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Registered: March 13, 2007
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How can you make a Feature request without understanding all the program?

Child Profiles are typicllay subsets of of the master set, such as a Boxset which might contain oh say, discs with a movie on each, Each of those discs would be a child of the master set. There can also be grandchild Profiles, I have yet to see Great Grandchild Profiles though they would be possible.

Manual Profiles are Profiles which you may have in you set which for some reason or other are not Contributable, somethimng you recorded yourself, a game, a videotape etc.

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MicHaeL H.
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Hay, just a different question here:

What are the 'Collection Numbers' for actually?
Really just for personal use, whatever anyone likes?
Like, setting numbers for every specific DVD.

I have left them all cleared of numbers, so have I done something terribly "wrong"? -_-'
- MicHaeL
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Well, you can use them as an additional identifier. The database primary key is the EAN followed by a . and the locality code. One thing I have is a trailer collection (a ripped trailer from every movie). That one uses the collection number as filenames to be able to connect it into the program.

But generally, yeah, it's for personal use to let you see how many you've got. And while it's a personal thing most people seem to use this numbering method, which lets you compare collection sizes:

1) every movie gets a number, boxset profiles don't (which means if you have the Back to the Future trilogy box that counts as 3 numbers)

2) every season of a series counts as one number. I personally count complete series as 1 instead of the number of contained seasons but that's a small modification
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Quoting Dr Pavlov:
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How can you make a Feature request without understanding all the program?

Child Profiles are typicllay subsets of of the master set, such as a Boxset which might contain oh say, discs with a movie on each, Each of those discs would be a child of the master set. There can also be grandchild Profiles, I have yet to see Great Grandchild Profiles though they would be possible.

Manual Profiles are Profiles which you may have in you set which for some reason or other are not Contributable, somethimng you recorded yourself, a game, a videotape etc.

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There is no reason be so god damn arrogant about it... 

But thanks for the clarification about the profiles, even though it doesn't solve anything, but I'm gonna live with it.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMark Harrison
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Hay, just a different question here:

What are the 'Collection Numbers' for actually?


Collection numbers mean whatever you want them to.  Some use them to group things (like a different range of numbers for TV vs. movies).  I've seen people use them to sort who a movie belongs to (roommates, wives, children have different ranges).  I personally assign a number to anything I purchase.  So a box set gets a number, but the child profiles don't.  I like knowing how many "things" I've purchased.  I use tags to filter out box sets if I want to know how many movies I have.

You can do whatever you want with them.  Or just ignore them.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAddicted2DVD
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I am the same way as you Mark... like to know the # of items I bought... so only parent profiles get numbers.

From there I always sort alphabetically by title... then renumber by title. that way it is always #-Z and 1-1649 (currently). 
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I am the same way as you Mark... like to know the # of items I bought... so only parent profiles get numbers.


i do the same... only parent profiles get a collection number
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorhal9g
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What many of us do is assign collection numbers to the child profiles, but don't assign a number to the boxset parent.


And some of us add the collection number to the set and leave the children blank.  It's all about what you want those numbers to mean.


And some of us do both.

For Movie Boxsets, I number the children and leave the parent blank.

For TV Boxsets, I number the parents and leave the children blank.
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And some of us do both.

For Movie Boxsets, I number the children and leave the parent blank.

For TV Boxsets, I number the parents and leave the children blank.


This is how I handle it as well.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantDick Sigrist
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I understand the effort it takes to define the collection number for each disc or for each disc or boxset, but I also have a few other questions:

How do you differentiate between a boxset of disc movies and a boxset that consists only of one movie and a second disc for bonus features?

How do you handle a situation where there are more than one movie on the same disc?  I have server discs that have multiple old black/white classics?

How do you handle double sided discs where there is a different move on each side?  Or where you have standard on one side and widescreen on the other?

My concern is the slot numbers in my Sony changer.  Multiple movies on one side would have the same slot number (not sure how DMX-3000 software would handle this).  Double sided moves also would have the same slot number (the Sony changer cannot select each side, only side A).
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I understand the effort it takes to define the collection number for each disc or for each disc or boxset, but I also have a few other questions:

How do you differentiate between a boxset of disc movies and a boxset that consists only of one movie and a second disc for bonus features?

If it is just a movie and a bonus disc... this would not be a boxset at all. In my opinion (as well as per the rules for the online database) a boxset must contain two or more films.

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How do you handle a situation where there are more than one movie on the same disc?  I have server discs that have multiple old black/white classics?

I do a profile per for each side of the disc with dividers and such for cast and crew. This is the only way that you can contribute the information to the online database.... though you could do manual profiles per film... only manual profiles are not contributable.

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How do you handle double sided discs where there is a different move on each side?  Or where you have standard on one side and widescreen on the other?


A movie on each side of the disc gets a profile for each side of the disc... and can be contributed. Widescreen on one side and Full Framed on the other does not get boxset treatment.

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My concern is the slot numbers in my Sony changer.  Multiple movies on one side would have the same slot number (not sure how DMX-3000 software would handle this).  Double sided moves also would have the same slot number (the Sony changer cannot select each side, only side A).


Of course you can break up the sets anyway you want locally making manual profiles. But as I said.. these can't be contributed to the main database. you would have to keep them local only.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantDick Sigrist
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OK, I understand that you can use the same collection number and a different slot for movies with Bonus material on the second disc.  The Profiles can help in defining what is on each disc.

The more difficult question is when you have two movies on the same side of the disc.  In fact, I have some DVDs where the cover art shows two different movies, complete with cast, etc.  I presume that the solution would be to use the same collection number twice and use the same slot number twice - and I assume the data base would give me the full cast, etc. for each of the movies.  The bigger problem will be to select the correct movie from the changer with the same slot number.

It sounds like the double sided problem is the same, except that the changer cannot get to the reverse side unless you remove the disc and turn it around.

Four movies on a disc (two on each side) would be a real challenge.
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If what you are trying to accomplish with collection numbers is a way to automatically select the disc from the changer than you are probably better off using the Location and Slot field. The location would be which changer (some people have more than one) and the Slot would be which slot in that changer.

Location/Slot are tied to discs not profiles. So if a profile doesn't have disc information on it than it won't have a location slot. If a profile has 2 discs (one for the movie and another for the bonus disc) than their will be a location/slot for each one.

You're right though that unless you have a changer that can read both sides or turn a disc over than the only way to get side a and side b is to take the disc out and turn it around.

you may want to check out the loadDVD plugin from mediadogg.

-Agrare
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantDick Sigrist
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My interest was no in collection numbers, but rather how to define the location/slot when there are two movies in the same slot.  This will occur when you have two or more short movies on the same side or when you have a disc with a different movie on each side.

I am using the MX-3000 Universal Remote with the DMX-3000 software from Triple B.  The DMX-3000 software imports the data from DVD Profiler including the location/slot.  The MX-3000 contains the macros to broadcast the PI/RF commands to my Sony Changers.  The DMX-3000 software allows me to have the jacket covers displayed and then play them when using the touch screen for a specfic movie.

The problem is that when you have two movies on the same side, you do not have the option of seeing two jacket covers.  It may be possible to add commands to the macro to locate the main disc menu and then somehow pick movie one or movie two and the same side.  Without two jacket covers it is not likely that you could simply pick an movie and play.

As for the double sided discs, you can only describe the content for Side A or Side B, but unless the changer can turn over the disc, you cannot play it directly using DMX-3000 with the MX-3000 remote.  I have considered simply having the macro address the Sony changer to go to the slot number, open the door, and then put a text display on the screen that says "Remove and turn over" before continuing (and another to tell you to put it back when it finishes).

Does this make sense?
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Yes I think you're making sense, but I think you've hit the limit of the program as it currently stands.
It sounds that what would help you would to be able to profile elements on a disc, such as TV episodes, short movies as you mention etc.
It has been asked for in the past, and it's possible it may be added to a later version - you could always lend your support to the suggestion.
In the meantime what may work is if you edit the affected profiles and add "fake" discs to the profile, for your local only of course, one for each short movie on the real disc. This would give you access to more location and slot fields - would that do what you want?
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What I would like to see is the ability to add letters to the colleciton numbers. That way I could designate the box sets with collection numbers B1234 etc. Currently I don't put numbers on them as I don't want to reassign them when I get the rest of my collection up that high. I like to keep the box sets separate from the single movies.
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