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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 5,715 |
| | Posted: | | | | These common name threads got conclusive since my last update: Gerard Brach - Writer, Producer: Gérard Brach, Gerard Brach Katherine Jane Bryant - Costumes: Katherine Jane Bryant, Janie Bryant Christopher Cano - Composer: Christopher Cano, Chris Cano John Crawford (????) - Puppeteer: John Crawford, John C. Crawford, John Curtis Crawford John D. Crawford - Actor: John Crawford, John D. Crawford T. J. Cross - Actor: T.J. Cross, T. J. Cross, TJ Cross Mark Dippe - VFX, Director, Producer: Mark A. Z. Dippé, Mark A.Z. Dippé, Mark A. Z. Dippe, Mark A.Z. Dippe, Mark Dippé, Mark Dippe, Mark Earnest Dippe, Mark E.R. Dippé, Mark E. R. Dippé, Mark Earnest Dippe, Mark E.R. Dippé, Mark E. R. Dippé, Mark AZ Dippé Juan Fernandez (1956) - Actor: Juan Fernández, Juan de Jesus Fernández de Alarcon, Juan Fernandez Juan M. Fernandez - Actor: Juan M. Fernández, Juan M. Fernandez, Juan Fernandez Christof Gebert - Sound: Christof Gebert, Christopher Gebert, Chris Gebert Whitney James - Makeup: Whitney L. James, Whitney James T. J. Miller - Actor, Writer, Producer, Comedian: T.J. Miller, TJ Miller Arnold Louis Miller - Director, Writer, Producer : Arnold L. Miller, Arnold Louis Miller, Arnold Miller Chris Nelson (1970) - Actor, Makeup, SFX, Puppeteer: Chris Nelson, Christopher Nelson, Christopher Allen Nelson Steven Park (????) - Actor: Steven P. Park, Steven Park Jeff Daniel Phillips - Actor: Jeff Daniel Phillips, Jeffrey Daniel Phillips, Jeff Phillips Gordon Smith - Makeup: Gordon J. Smith, Gordon Smith, Gord Smith Paul Tade - Sound: Paul Tade, Paul E. Tade Melody Thomas - Actress: Melody Thomas Scott, Melody Thomas John Trenaman - Actor: John Trenaman, John Treneman James Van Heusen - Composer: James Van Heusen, Jimmy Van Heusen GregAlan Williams - Actor, Writer, Producer: Gregory Alan Williams, Gregory Alan-Williams, Greg Alan-Williams, Gregalan Williams, Greg Alan Williams, Greg Allan Williams, Gregory=Alan Williams | | | | Complete list of Common Names • A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1) |
| | Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | T. J. Cross
T. J. Miller
these are incorrect. They are not the common names. They are auto-filter names of the real common names of T.J. Cross & T.J. Miller. |
| | Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,715 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ateo357: Quote:
T. J. Cross
T. J. Miller
these are incorrect. They are not the common names. They are auto-filter names of the real common names of T.J. Cross & T.J. Miller. What's the difference? - This is the name, they can be found in the data base with. In theese examples, the auto corrected variant of the name is never used as credit, which makes makes me understand, why you see a difference. But in most cases both, the auto corrected and the standard variation of the name is used as credit. To determine the "name for the data base" we sum up all variants that end up in the same auto corrected string; which one should be clained as "common name" in such cases? - eg. how should John M. Watson, Sr. be listed? | | | | Complete list of Common Names • A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1) |
| | Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | T. J. Miller and T. J. Cross have never been a credit in their films/TV shows as of yet. The only reason they are in the database is because of the auto-filter. You can look them up in the CLT and if there are any titles listed under either of the 2 names, they are incorrect.
There is no way a variation that has never been in a film can be the most credited variation of an actors name, which is the common name.
I don't have any auto-filtered names in my personal DB. And when I contribute I don't have the auto-filters in the profile. I use the common names. |
| | Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,715 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ateo357: Quote:
T. J. Miller and T. J. Cross have never been a credit in their films/TV shows as of yet. The only reason they are in the database is because of the auto-filter. You can look them up in the CLT and if there are any titles listed under either of the 2 names, they are incorrect. I've seen this - in theese cases you are correct. But theese cases are not the only one. You completely ignored the John M. Watson example... Quote:
There is no way a variation that has never been in a film can be the most credited variation of an actors name, which is the common name. This ist the crux of the matter: which name do I list and how can we call it. You set up a definition here: Most credited Variant = Common Name From my point of view, the name of the string is not important. What is important to me? - Getting the correct string for the data base! Quote:
I don't have any auto-filtered names in my personal DB. And when I contribute I don't have the auto-filters in the profile. I use the common names. ... and what is sneaking into your database after the next online update? The auto filtered string! | | | | Complete list of Common Names • A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1) |
| | Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | I guess your list is Common Name/Auto-filter Name. And there are several on the list that are incorrect.
the common name is John Watson, Sr. - The auto filter is something that we can't control. The rules say to use the most credited variation. Not to add a variation that is auto filtered to an actual credited variation.
99 out of 100 may think that is how it should be done, but it's still outside the rules and not correct.
I've already had this discussion on many common name threads involving initials or Jr./Sr. names , not going to change my mind, unless there is a rule change.
I don't download cast and crew from the database without checking if there are common names, and if they are correct. And I don't download auto-filters. | | | | Last edited: by ateo357 |
| | Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,715 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ateo357: Quote:
I guess your list is Common Name/Auto-filter Name. Yes, I'm a rather technical guy; so I'm listing the name which ends in the data base. Quote:
And there are several on the list that are incorrect. If there are really wrong entries, I'm really interested in correcting them. If there are names which are under discussion, then I try to understand the motivation of the discussion (as with this small argument here) and decide then to either remove the proposal for the "common name" or let it as is (everyone can check the threads himself to find the truth, which is necessary for all of the tied and many open threads). Quote:
the common name is John Watson, Sr. - The auto filter is something that we can't control. The rules say to use the most credited variation. Not to add a variation that is auto filtered to an actual credited variation.
99 out of 100 may think that is how it should be done, but it's still outside the rules and not correct.
I've already had this discussion on many common name threads involving initials or Jr./Sr. names , not going to change my mind, unless there is a rule change. I don't demand anyone to change mind, but I try to go with the majority... Quote:
I don't download cast and crew from the database without checking if there are common names, and if they are correct. And I don't download auto-filters. Checking is necessary - I learned that on the hard way - but not reimporting auto filtered names causes a lot of work, which imho is not really necessary, since the credited as name is kept intact anyways. ps. The name used for my links is retrieved by myself following theese aspects (more or less  - maybe I'm forgetting something or special cases need special treatment) a) if the thread is conclusive, I use the common name (or at least the name variant which should end up in the online data base). b) if the thread is open, I take a look at the following criterias: - is there a comfortable majority for one name variant - is the current majority against the IMDB name (this hardens the majority) - are there many cross overs between name variants in the CLT (this lowers the stability) - are there TV shows missing to be confirmed (they have a very large impact on CLT and common names) c) if a thread is on a tie, the following criterias make the name proposal - if the thread was conclusive before the tie, I keep the previously conclusive name - if the CLT is somewhat reliable (little cross overs between the names, little TV series, etc.) I use it Anyways, if I can't see a solid tendency to one or the other name, I leave the name field blank, which ends up in "not decided yet" - as all entries in the "new thread post" show... On the other hand, I'm a little bit more aggressive in calling a name, if the resulting names need BYs to get unique. In theese cases I really try to get any confirmation available: Downloading the features, PMs to owners of the feature (who created the profile), etc. In this cases the common name thread(s) is often only a utility to get more information for the documentation of a BY... | | | | Complete list of Common Names • A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1) |
| | Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,715 |
| | Posted: | | | | These common name threads got conclusive since my last update: William J. Creber - Director, Production Designer: William Creber, William J. Creber Joe di Reda - Actor: Joe Di Reda, Joseph Di Reda, Joe DiReda, Joe De Reda, Joseph De Reda William Feng - Actor: Shaofeng Feng, Feng Shao Feng, Feng Shaofeng, William Feng Joleigh Fioreavanti - Actress: Joleigh Fioreavanti, Joleigh Fioravanti, Joleigh Pulsonetti, Joliegh Pulsonetti Sheila Frazier - Actress: Sheila Frazier, Sheila E. Frazier Richard Johnson (????) - Art Director: Richard L. Johnson, Richard Johnson Lydia Jordan - Actress: Lydia Jordan, Lydia Grace Jordan Nick LaTour - Actor: Nick La Tour, Nick LaTour Sidney Liufau - Actor, Stuntman: Sidney Liufau, Sid Liufau, Sidney S. Liufau, Sid S. Liufau Michael Miller (1949) - Actor: Mike Miller, Michael L. Miller, Michael Miller Darren Poe - VFX: Darren Poe, Darren M. Poe, Darren M Poe Tobias Schliessler - Cinematographer: Tobias A. Schliessler, Tobias Schliesller, Tobias Schliessler Tarsem Singh - Director, Producer, Writer: Tarsem Singh Dhandwar, Tarsem Singh, Tarsem Soon-Teck Oh - Actor: Soon-Taik Oh, Soon-Tek Oh, Soon-Teck Oh, Soon Taik Oh, Soon-Tech Oh, Soon Teck Oh, Soon Tek Oh Wade Williams (1961) - Actor: Wade Williams, Wade Andrew Williams Don "The Dragon" Wilson - Actor, Kickboxer: Don 'The Dragon' Wilson, Don "The Dragon" Wilson, Don Wilson Robert "Bobby Z" Zajonc - Actor: Robert "Bobby Z" Zajonc, Robert Zajonc The common names of the following name threads flipped since my last update: Conrad Brink - SFX: Conrad V. Brink, Conrad V. Brink Jr., Conrad V. Brink, Jr., Conrad Brink, Jr., Conrad Brink Jr., Conrad Brink, Connie Brink, Jr. Patrick A. Stewart - Cinematographer: Patrick A. Stewart, Patrick Alexander Stewart, Patrick Stewart | | | | Complete list of Common Names • A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1) |
| | Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,715 |
| | Posted: | | | | These common name threads got conclusive since my last update: Eddie Conna - Actor, Stuntman: Eddie Conna, Edward Conna, Eddie "Doogie" Conna, Ed Conna, Eddy Conna, Edward "Doogie" Conna, Eddy "Doogie" Conna, Eddie 'Doogie' Conna, Edward 'Doogie' Conna Rob De Leeuw - Actor: Rob deLeeuw, Rob De Leeuw, Robert deLeeuw, Robert de Leeuw Joe DiValerio - VFX: Joseph DiValerio, Joe DiValerio, Joe Di Valerio Marjorie Durand - Makeup: Marjorie Durand, Margie Durand John Porter Davison - Actor: John Porter Davison, John Porter-Davison Michael Schwartz - Actor: Michael Schwartz, Michael W. Schwartz, Michael Williams Donna W. Scott - Actress: Donna Scott, Donna W. Scott, Donna Wilson Phil Sgriccia - Producer, Director, Editor: Phil Sgriccia, Philip Sgriccia, Philip J. Sgriccia Michael Williams - Actor: Michael Edward Williams, Michael Williams Michael C. Williams - Actor: Michael C. Williams, Michael Williams, Mike C. Williams, Thomas Guiry - Actor: Thomas Guiry, Tom Guiry | | | | Complete list of Common Names • A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1) |
| | Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,715 |
| | Posted: | | | | These common name threads got conclusive since my last update: Michael Buchanan - Art Director, Production Designer: Michael Buchanan, Mike Buchanan Ian Dickinson - Actor: Ian T. Dickinson, Ian Dickinson Mark Johnson (????) - Actor: Mark Whitman Johnson, Mark W. Johnson, Mark Johnson Tony Jones (1962) - Actor: Tony Jones, Anthony R. Jones Anthony R. Jones (????) - Actor: Anthony R. Jones, Anthony Jones Daniel Kamin - Actor: Daniel Tucker Kamin, Daniel T. Kamin, Daniel Kamin, Danny Kamin David Keyes - Actor: David Keyes, David Keys Mavis Neal Palmer - Actress: Mavis Neal Palmer, Mavis Neal Beverly Powers - Actress: Beverly Powers, Beverly Hills, Miss Beverly Hills Howard Smith (1912) - Editor: Howard A. Smith, Howard Smith Chris Todd - Actor: Chris Todd, Christopher Todd Michael Kenneth Williams - Actor: Michael K. Williams, Michael Kenneth Williams Indira G. Wilson - Actress: Indira G. Wilson, Indira Gibson, Indira Wilson | | | | Complete list of Common Names • A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1) | | | | Last edited: by AiAustria |
| | Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,715 |
| | Posted: | | | | These common name threads got conclusive since my last update: Thomas Ackermann - Cinematographer: Thomas E. Ackerman / Thomas Ackerman / Tom Ackerman / Edward Thomas Bill Andrews - Art Director: William C. Andrews / Bill Andrews / W. Andrews Ellis Burman (????) - Makeup: Sonny Burman / Ellis Burman / Ellis Berman / Ellis Burman, Jr. / Ellis Burman Jr. Robert A. Burns - Art Director, Production Designer: Robert A. Burns / Robert Burns Richard Cirincione - Sound: Richard P. Cirincione / Richard Cirincione Steve Cookman - Sound: Stephen Cookman / Steve Cookman Michael Hoffmann (????) - Costumes: Michael Hoffman / Michael W. Hoffman / Mike Hoffman Jack C. Jacobsen - Sound: Jack C. Jacobsen / Jack Jacobsen / Jack C. Jacobson Daniel Kamin - Actor: Daniel Tucker Kamin / Daniel T. Kamin / Daniel Kamin / Danny Kamin Howard W. Koch, Jr. - Producer: Hawk Koch / Howard W. Koch, Jr. / Howard W. Koch Jr. / Howard W. "Hawk" Koch, Jr., Anthony Penya - Actor: Anthony Pena / Anthony Penya / Tony Pena / Tony Peña / Anthony Peña Bo Poraj - Actor: Bo Poraj / Bohdan Poraj Steve Posey - Director, Cinematographer: Steve Posey / Stephen L. Posey / Stephen Posey Florent-Emilio Siri - Director, Writer: Florent Siri / Florent Emilio Siri / Florent-Emilio Siri Jessica Stevenson - Acress: Jessica Stevenson / Jessica Hynes / Jazzy Jess Pamela Westmore - Makeup: Pamela S. Westmore / Pam Westmore / Pamela Westmore Charles M. Wilborn - Sound: Chuck Wilborn / Charles M. Wilborn / Charles Wilborn / Charlie Wilborn Benjamin Wilkinson - Actor: Benjamin Wilkinson / Ben Wilkinson James Williams - Sound: James Williams / James G. Williams / Jim Williams / James G. Williams, Jr. Robert B. Williams - Actor: Robert Williams / Robert B. Williams / Bob Williams The common names of the following name threads flipped since my last update: Robert N. Bradbury - Director: Robert N. Bradbury / Robert Bradbury / R. N. Bradbury / Robert North Bradbury | | | | Complete list of Common Names • A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1) |
| | Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,715 |
| | Posted: | | | | These common name threads got conclusive since my last update: Dan Barringer - Actor, Stuntman: Dan Barringer / Daniel W. Barringer / Daniel Barringer Ricci-Lee Berry - Makeup: Ricci-Lee Berry / Ricki-Lee Berry / Ricci Lee Berry Joseph Biroc - Cinematographer: Joe Biroc / Joseph F. Biroc / Joseph Biroc Frank DeVol - Composer: Frank DeVol / Frank De Vol / DeVol / De Vol Robert Hoy - Actor: Robert Hoy / Robert F. Hoy / Bob Hoy / Bobby Hoy Suttirat Anne Larlarb - Art Director, Production Manager, Costume Designer: Suttirat Larlarb / Suttirat Anne Larlarb Frida Richard - Actress: Frida Richard / Frieda Richard Jose Ramon Rosario - Actor: José Ramón Rosario / Jose Rosario / Jose Ramon Rosario / José Ramon Rosario / José Rosario Elden Ruberg - Sound: Elden Ruberg / Elden E. Ruberg / Eldon Ruberg Hans von Twardowski - Actor: Hans Heinrich von Twardowski / H.H.v. Twardowski / H. H v. Twardowski / H. H. v. Twardowski / Hans Heinrich v. Twardowski / Hans Heinz v. Twardowski / Hans Heinz von Twardowski / Hans Von Twardowski / Hans von Twardowsky Danko Yordanov - Actor, Stuntman: Danko Jordanov / Danko Yordanov / Danko Iordanov | | | | Complete list of Common Names • A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1) |
| | Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,715 |
| | Posted: | | | | These common name threads got conclusive since my last update: Mahershalalhashbaz Ali - Actor: Mahershalalhashbaz Ali / Mahershala Ali Timothy Bentinck - Actor: Timothy Bentinck / Tim Bentinck Elisha Cook - Actor: Elisha Cook / Elisha Cook, Jr. / Elisha Cook Jr. / Elisha Cook, Jr Iván Fenyö - Actor: Iván Fenyö / Ivan Fenyo / Ivan Fenyö / Iván Fenyó / Iván Fenyõ / Fenyö Iván Wayne Finkelman - Costumes: Wayne A. Finkelman / Wayne Filnkelman / Wayne Finkelman / Wayne Finkleman Michael Fitzgerald (1979) - Actor: Michael FitzGerald / Michael Ford-FitzGerald Gabriella Fon - Actress: Gabriella Fon / Gabi Fon / Gabi Fón / Fon Gabriella Chris Guglick - Sound: Christopher Guglick / Chris Guglick Avice Landon - Actress: Avice Landone / Avice Landon Charles Lang (1902) - Cinematographer: Charles B. Lang Jr. / Charles B. Lang, Jr. / Charles B. Lang, Jr / Charles Lang Jr / Charles Lang Jr. / Charles Lang, Jr. / Charles B. Lang / Charles E. Lang / Charles Lang Kyrsten Mate - Sound: Kyrsten Mate / Kyrsten Mate Comoglio / Kyrsten Comoglio Andre Morgan - Producer, Actor, Writer: Andre Morgan / André Morgan / Andre E. Morgan / André E. Morgan Geoff D. E. Scott - VFX: Geoff D.E. Scott / Geoff D. E. Scott / Geoff Scott / Geoffrey D.E. Scott / Geoffrey D. E. Scott Ethan Smith (1978) - Actor: Ethan S. Smith / Ethan Smith Guylaine St. Onge - Actress: Guylaine St-Onge / Guylaine St. Onge Evelyn Stewart - Actress: Ida Galli / Arianna Galli / Isli Oberon / Priscila Steele / Eveline Stewart / Evelin Stewart / Evelyne Stewart / Evelyn Stewart Sydney Rae White - Actress: Sydney Rae White / Sydney White / Sydney Raw White The common names of the following name threads flipped since my last update: Donald Kozma - Makeup: Don Kozma / Donald Kozma / Donald A. Kozma / Donald Andrew Kozma | | | | Complete list of Common Names • A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1) |
| | Registered: September 18, 2008 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,650 |
| | Posted: | | | | Is there a master list?
Looking for Samantha Janus / Samantha Womack and the search engine isn't the best. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 2,588 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting samuelrichardscott: Quote:
Is there a master list?
Looking for Samantha Janus / Samantha Womack and the search engine isn't the best. No common name thread as far as I know, but Samantha Janus is her common name right now. | | | In the end; Winning is the only safety.
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| | Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,715 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting samuelrichardscott: Quote:
Is there a master list?
Looking for Samantha Janus / Samantha Womack and the search engine isn't the best. This is the master list. For everyone else the CLT is to be referenced, which tells currently: Samantha Womack 5 titles, 49 profiles Samantha Janus 44 titles, 53 profiles Though this is blatantly wrong because of invalid TV series count, it is clear enough to tell, Samantha Janus is the more often used variant. | | | | Complete list of Common Names • A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1) |
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