Chris:

Whatever the reason, is irrelevant. (I do not pretend to be smarter than the data or the Rules, i simply follow them both wherever they take me, whether I like it or not. God how many times must i give this speech. If I REALLY REALLY hate it, then I can eitrher not Contrinbute OR Contribute to the Rul;es and adjust my local to MY standards. I do not approve of the change from the ON Screen either, but the majority said otherwise and so did Ken, so whether I like it or not, is completely irrelevant, as I said unlike a lot of users I do NOT require that the Online meet my criteria, that is the function of MY LOCAL database. As for the possessives there was so mucg extraneous garbage thrown into that discussion that had NOTHING to do with POSSESSIVE's it was absolutely incredible, icluding BOGUS claims of screwing up sorting. If people don't how to cope with this kind of thing, then they probably should not be using a computer but should still be using 3X5 index cards for cataloging.

SAkip

Because the Rules demand the change, hal. Tap, tap, tap, Helooooooo...McFly!!!!!

Skip

Quoting GSyren:

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Well, in my opinion, what this means is that if there is an episode descriptor on the front cover, it should be included in the title. The part about multiple descriptors has an unfortunate example, but I think the intention is clear - if there are multiple descriptors on the front cover, they should be included separated with a colon and a space.

In this case, though, "Episode II" is not on the cover, therefore Skip's interpretation is valid.

I agree with you and Skip on this one. I think the reason the part about episode descriptors is specifically mentionned in the rules is that so people don't put them in the Edition field.

I also don't understand why people are flipping out over the change? The database needs to have the title from the dvd cover...simple...whatever you want to do with your local is your choice.

George Lucas has changed the name of his Star Wars movies with some of their re-releases, so I think it's fair to check the front of each DVD to see what it is named.

And we would have an absolute wreck for a database, Yves, we have been down your road already. Quit whining.

Skip

You can't have a voting system without standards, otherwise you create a mess and the arguments become worse.

But i don't expect you to comprehend that. I wish I could expect you to behave rationally and intelligently but sadly you never fail to prove yourself...no I won't say it.

Skip      

The rules are the rules. All rules are subject to some level of interpretation, but this rule has been changed, and I interpret the rule exactly the way Skip does. I usually disagree with many of his interpretations (he often calls these "facts"), but not here.

Ken has even (without joining this discussion) changed part of the wording of the rule to eliminate confusion... the dropping of the part which cites the "Episode I" example.

I think that whether Skip's motives are snide (shoving this change down some peoples' throats) or helpful does not matter. I have my own uninformed opinions about Skip's behavior, but even when I'm right, Skip claims I am not, because Skip will throw out red herrings as to why he does anything, including conflicting red herrings to disable all arguments against his position(s). Who cares.

This follows the rules exactly.

If you don't like it, change it locally to whatever you want. Use the program the way it's intended -- follow the rules on contributions and changes to the database, and change anything you want to any way you want within your own local database.

That's what I do. Or try to do. Skip says he keeps higher resolution scans in his local database. I don't care for his scans often, or I'd be asking him for copies of them... and I know he'd supply them. He's offered to do so. But back to the discussion. Objecting to this submission is fine, but voting needs to be on a reasonable interpretation of following the rules. The rules have changed and the descriptive part has changed to match the wording of the rule.

The title comes from the front cover. (Unless a possessive is involved, but this change does not involve a possessive.) Skip's submission changes the title of the profile to match the title on the front cover of the DVD. Seems obvious to me.

Well Rick,

As Cliff said, all rules are subject to some level of interpretation. But no matter how you look at it, the word "Episode" is not on the cover.