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Bob:

I Care? I am not one who blows with the wind, and throws out sorts of false information, such as it will screw up the sort
Skip

As usual you misrepresent.  The argument had nothing to do with sort, since that is a local issue.  It had evrything to do with "title search" when adding DVDs to your collection.

And we know all about full-text search, so don;' bother!

Quoting skipnet50:

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Gunnar:

What about what I say is that hard for you to comprehend. It was NOT I who introduced the concept of the Copyrighted Title. I repeat what I have ALREADY said NUMEROUS times, there is ONE answer, whatever it is, INCLUDING possessives and perhaps even such things as Bud and Lou, Episodes whatever. There is NO IF THEN in an atempt to dispose of data that somebody doesn't like, that is for the local database ONLY. Sheeeesh you people are really dense or just have an overwhelming desire to fight with me. GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Skip

You are correct.  There is ONE answer, and it has already been defined by Ken in the Rules.  Just follow them and all will be well!

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Gunnar:

What about what I say is that hard for you to comprehend. It was NOT I who introduced the concept of the Copyrighted Title. I repeat what I have ALREADY said NUMEROUS times, there is ONE answer, whatever it is, INCLUDING possessives and perhaps even such things as Bud and Lou, Episodes whatever. There is NO IF THEN in an atempt to dispose of data that somebody doesn't like, that is for the local database ONLY. Sheeeesh you people are really dense or just have an overwhelming desire to fight with me. GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Skip

You are correct.  There is ONE answer, and it has already been defined by Ken in the Rules.  Just follow them and all will be well!

You are wrong again, hal. Re-read what I said. Assuming you are capable of comprhension which appears severley limited. here's a hint look for the IF THEN, which is what is part of the new Rule.

This is why I keep saying you people either don't understand what i say, or don't care and simply want to be disagreeable.

Skip

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Gunnar:

What about what I say is that hard for you to comprehend. It was NOT I who introduced the concept of the Copyrighted Title. I repeat what I have ALREADY said NUMEROUS times, there is ONE answer, whatever it is, INCLUDING possessives and perhaps even such things as Bud and Lou, Episodes whatever. There is NO IF THEN in an atempt to dispose of data that somebody doesn't like, that is for the local database ONLY. Sheeeesh you people are really dense or just have an overwhelming desire to fight with me. GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Skip

You are correct.  There is ONE answer, and it has already been defined by Ken in the Rules.  Just follow them and all will be well!

You are wrong again, hal. Re-read what I said. Assuming you are capable of comprhension which appears severley limited. here's a hint look for the IF THEN, which is what is part of the new Rule.

This is why I keep saying you people either don't understand what i say, or don't care and simply want to be disagreeable.

Skip

Anyone with a reasonable amount of intelligence can easily navigate an if/then rule.

Apparently not ALL of us have the required intelligence to do it, but I am not surprised.

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it is ALSO factually correct that the Credit Block is NOT FACTUALLY correct in ALL cases.
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You keep saying this Skip, hence why I asked the question.
And I will ask it again....

can you please give me just a couple of examples where the credit block is incorrect

I have in fact documented several, richie, The John Carpenter titles  are a fine example, sine the Original hypothesis was that the credit block would give the Copyrighted titel and it does NOT.

Skip

No, give me some examples that are incorrect.

The JC ones are fine, where applicable his name is within quotes and part of the title, where it is not his name is outside of the quotes and not part of the title.


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, sine the Original hypothesis was that the credit block would give the Copyrighted titel and it does NOT.

Skip

What and whose original hypothesis??


Again I ask, have you got some examples of where the credit block/billing block is completely wrong?



NOTE - WE ARE NOT STUPID,YOU DO NOT NEED TO CAPITALISE WORDS FOR EMPHASIS IN EVERY REPLY. 

In case you missed this Skip

He did not miss it.

Trolls always ignore any argument that they cannot answer directly!

Richie:

I have answered that question SEVERAL times and will not answer it again.

Beam me up Scotty there is NO intelligent life here.

Skip

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Not to put too fine a point on it, but you have yet to demonstrate a single title where the credit block is wrong.  You've found a few that you can't match to a copyright label in their database, but that hardly makes it wrong.  The copyright database also lists a number of alternate titles for each movie.  Beyond that, there is no such thing as a title copyright, so it would be impossible for the credit block to match it.

What you seem to be willfully ignoring is the fact that the credit block never changes.  it is established prior to a film's release and published on all the marketing literature including trailers...and it never changes.  Once the credit block is set, it is what is used for the life of the film.  Movies that are now being released on home video for the very first time in decades still dredge up the original credit block and publish it on the packaging.  Why?  Because the studio is legally obligated to do so.  It's as authorative a source as you're ever going to find because it's permanent...and the studios know it.  Now it's not mine or anyone else's fault that the studios generally don't recognize the possessive credit as being part of a movie's title.  When they do recognize it, it is permanently affixed in the credit block.

So, for the record, why don't you explain to us how one of the only reliable sources for the official title is not reliable?  Because it didn't match a non-reliable source?  That's like saying our profiles are wrong because they don't match IMDB. 

OK,
Since we're going to use the rules, let's:
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Titles

Title
Use the title from the front cover.

    * Never add distinguishing factors to the title (such as "Widescreen" or "Special Edition"). Use the Edition field for these.
    * Check capitalization of the title.
    * Do not include quotes if they surround the entire title.
    * Include possessives if the front cover includes them, and if they are verifiably part of the title. If quotes surround the title in the credit block (generally on the back cover), check whether the possessive is within the quotes. In the absence of quotes to verify, check the font size used for the title on the front cover. Generally, possessives which use a significantly smaller font are not part of the title.
    * Possessive examples: "Tim Burton's Corpse Bride", John Carpenter's "The Thing". In each case, the portion within quotes is the title.
    * For English titles do not capitalize joining words such as "of", "the", "a", "in", etc. unless they are the first, last or only word in of the title. "Lord of the Rings" is correctly capitalized. "Lord Of The Rings" is not. "The Matrix Reloaded" is correctly capitalized. "The matrix reloaded" is not.
          o For non-English titles, use capitalization rules common to the language of the title “Tout va bien” is correctly capitalized. “Tout Va Bien” is not
          o If the title appears in multiple languages, use the title that matches the language of the locality and do not include an alternate title ( for instance in another language).
      o Episode descriptors are part of the title; separate them with a colon and space; e.g. "Star Trek III: The Search for Spock". For multiple descriptors, use a colon and space for each break, e.g. "Star Wars: Episode I: The Phantom Menace".
        o For music and stage performance DVDs, use the performer or group name followed by the DVD title, separated with a colon and space. For example: "U2: Rattle and Hum", "Ellen Degeneres: The Begining".
          o Annual DVDs such WWE or NFL Films titles if the year is included it is part of the title and should not be included in the Descriptor field. For Example Title: Year.
          o The title for a Box Set should be the title listed on the Front Cover; for example Alien Quadrilogy.

  THIS example is from the 'How to' on contributions', and uses the Episode number, etc to describe a Star Wars title.

  If I used the wrong version of a rule, Oh Well!
  It doesn't mean the reasoning was incorrect per the rules. 

  Now, either the rule is incorrect, or the example is.  Or maybe you need to read the whole rule......