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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorMikaLove
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I have a general question, which however could possibly turn into a debate.

How do you "count" your titles in DVDP?

I don't think it's "fair" to count every entry. Like if you count both the box and the child profiles as one title each. That would make for example the Lethal Weapon box count as five movies, when they are actually only four.

Personally, I don't count the boxes themselves, or any supplemental discs. Such as the Ultimate Matrix Collection on Blu-ray. I count it as four [movies]: The box as "0", The Matrix as "1", The Matrix Reloaded as "1", The Matrix Revolutions as "1", The Animatrix as "1" and The Matrix Experience: 2-Disc Databank as "0". This could have been six "movies"/titles, otherwise, which IMO it is not.
The rest of my collection and database follow the same principles.

The LOTR Collector's Gift Set, I count as only one each, even if they contain exclusive bonus discs (and lots of artwork).
And the Ultimate Superman Collection I count as six in total; only counting the movies, one each, and the Superman documentary as a title as well, since it is available separately.
The same goes for the accompanying disc to the Spider-man LE Collector's Gift Set, which has the Stan Lee's Mutants, Monsters and Marvels disc, which also is sold separately.
So, if a movie/title is also sold (or has been sold) separately, I consider it a title which also counts.

Lastly, I count TV-series boxes as one title each – if it's not divided into several separate discs, which are sold separately. Like for example the Monty Python's Flying Circus box. I count it as four titles.

However I'm not sure how to count Twin Peaks: Definitive Gold Box. As one or two? Because the seasons are available separately. I currently count this as one as well.

Needless to say, I count double feature DVD's (the very few I luckily have) as two titles.
Movie boxes which contains movies that aren't yet released separately, I (would) still count as one title per movie.

I'm a little unsure whether I should count titles which are included in box sets, and are of either a version in another aspect ratio, or a different cut.
For example, The Evil Dead Trilogy (see below) has a bonus disc with Evil Dead, original 4:3 AR. So should I count the box as three or four titles?


The Hellraiser Lament Configuration Box Set also includes a fourth disc, which has Hellraiser III on it, also in OAR. Count it or not count it?

As of now, I'm not counting bonus discs at all – if they aren't sold separately and are official releases.
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This really is a personal choice, unless someone is in it to prove they have more than someone else..

With that being said;

I count mine

For Movies, I count one for each movie.  I do not assign collection numbers to the boxset.  For me, counting the boxset is irrelevant.

For TV, I count 1 for each season.  I do not try to collect best of compilations, therefore I am not sure how I would work those. 

That is me.


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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorMikaLove
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But I think there is a reason, or could be a reason, that DVDP allows for both counting the titles and the other option to count your titles as one, none or several.
I mean there is the collection numbering and there is the movie count function.

I have numbered all my titles in the exact same order as they sit on my bookshelves.
If I wouldn't number everything, the online collection gets messed up.
Therefor I even number box set cases.
But that's another thing. Giving each entry a collection number is a necessity for the onlline collection to look good and intact.

After that, I go into my personal settings and adjust the count number so it will only count movies and TV-series, etc as one, in most cases. And this is what I'm talking about.

And obviously there is a "need" to talk about how many movies you have here, as there are specific topics for that. E.g. the 3000+ club, etc.

So I'd like to discuss and find out how people count their titles in their collections.

If you count "everything" you can rapidly gain many percents of the actual number of titles in your collection.
The ability to "count" your movies through the personal settings is relatively new. And it tells you more accurately how many movies you have.

It's interesting to at least me to see how many movies I really have. When I started to use DVDP, I could only see how many entries the program summed up. After I had adjusted every entry, I "lost" a lot of "movies". I'm sure it was about 75-100 or so.
And again, not giving your titles a collection number messes your online collection up.
Look at mine and see how neat and tidy it is.
Only exception is some titles that I'm thinking about selling which I have given a much higher number. I didn't want them among my other movies, there and IRL.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorJimmy S
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This is how I count mine :

one DVD equals one movie (no importance the number of film they have on it)
For the boxset I count only one films (the film in it doesn't have a number)
Same procedure with the TV set (one season equals one film, anyway I don't use child profile for them)

As you can see nothing really complicated or unusual
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Quoting AESP_pres:
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one DVD equals one movie (no importance the number of film they have on it)
For the boxset I count only one films (the film in it doesn't have a number)

I don't really understand how you count your box sets and multiple feature DVD's?

Let's say, if you have the Lethal Weapon collection, which is a box set (one entry in your DB) and four movies. Do you only count the box as one?
Then, hypothetically, if you only had box sets with your movies in, you wold reduce your collection number enormously...

One example of my double feature DVD's is one with Gattaca and The Thirteenth Floor on it. I count that one as two movies.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorJimmy S
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Yes I count only the box (because I've bought the boxset and not the four movies)
Same thing for the double features for the same reasons.

Imagine when I've a 50 movies set and I count only the box that makes 50 movies or 12 dvd that aren't count in my collection. Since I give a number for the dvd I've paid in a set.
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My count is quite easy:
DVD -> 1 per movie
Box-Sets (movie) -> 1 per movie (as long as they are on separate discs, or at least sides (for "flippers"), 0 for package.
TV-Shows -> 1 per Season box

I don't count any Bonus disc whatsoever, because I'm mainly interested in how many movies I own.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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I don't count my movies in DVDP. I use IMDb's My Movies feature for that. I keep 4 lists: 1 for theatrical films, 1 for direct-to-video titles, 1 for tv movies and 1 for tv series (including mini-series). Much easier than trying to set up some system that works in Profiler.
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Every entry in DVDP has a "Count As" of 1. I duplicate double features on one disc and make the second a manual entry so I can separate the profiles. I hate seeing 2 movies separated only by dividers. I want to view the information for a movie by itself, not by having to figure out what pieces go with movie 1 or movie 2. I have tags set up that allow me to figure out exactly how many movies I actually have. I count a season as 1 movie and 1 each for movies in sets (i.e., The Ultimate Matrix Collection is only 3 movies). The Collection # does not reflect anything in particular at the moment. I discovered recently that I am using a double standard for this number. I am going to make a decision soon and stick with it.      
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Quoting goblinsdoitall:
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My count is quite easy:
DVD -> 1 per movie
Box-Sets (movie) -> 1 per movie (as long as they are on separate discs, or at least sides (for "flippers"), 0 for package.
TV-Shows -> 1 per Season box

I don't count any Bonus disc whatsoever, because I'm mainly interested in how many movies I own.


This is how I do it for the most part.  There are a few places I deviate, though.  It's strictly a personal preference and not a recommendation.

1. In cases where the bonus disc is a substantial (yeah, that's a gray area*) documentary that was not originally part of the film I give a collection number and a count.  Examples would be the Bergman Island disc in Seventh Seal, the MGM doc in Wizard of Oz, The American Masters special on Orson Welles & William Randolph Hearst in Citizen Kane or the 3 hour Blade Runner doc. 

2. I've made additional exceptions to count alternate productions of a story, such as Double Indemnity including a TV remake or Maltese Falcon including multiple versions.  Each gets a collection number and a count.

3. I only have two "complete series" sets:  The Wire and The Shield.  In each instance I count each season as a collection number only and each disc as a count only.  This was cumbersome and I'll revisit it, but that's how it is for now.

Those exceptions are few and I've only counted the ones that I can think of.  I understand there are inconsistencies, but I look at this as a "work in progress" and since all this is strictly local I don't have to fret about contribution wars.   There will always be some inconsistencies, but statistically they begin to wash out.  This program is a great place for me to focus any OCD without disrupting my real life.

As to my online collection (both via browser and MyMovies iPod Touch app)... for film box sets I exclude the box but include the films; I exclude TV season discs and "complete series" boxes but include the seasons.  Things like the docs mentioned in 1. above just don't appear.

* Gray area:  My metric is generally, "is this something that I'd actually sit and watch on its own" combined with "would I recommend this to someone who has not seen the movie?" (for instance my girlfriend's father hates animated movies, but I plan on lending him the doc on "Up" and try to force him to watch the first twenty minutes of the movie
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Quoting goblinsdoitall:
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My count is quite easy:
DVD -> 1 per movie
Box-Sets (movie) -> 1 per movie (as long as they are on separate discs, or at least sides (for "flippers"), 0 for package.
TV-Shows -> 1 per Season box

I don't count any Bonus disc whatsoever, because I'm mainly interested in how many movies I own.

That is exactly my preference as well.
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Apologies in advice if this sounds insulting, it's not meant to be, but can I ask why you count? I have zero interest in how many DVDs or films or profiles I have, and I've never understood why this number seem so important. 
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Apologies in advice if this sounds insulting, it's not meant to be, but can I ask why you count? I have zero interest in how many DVDs or films or profiles I have, and I've never understood why this number seem so important. 


Size matters!

Don't let them kid you that it doesn't! 
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Apologies in advice if this sounds insulting, it's not meant to be, but can I ask why you count? I have zero interest in how many DVDs or films or profiles I have, and I've never understood why this number seem so important. 


Fair question.  I'm not particularly interested either, but it's a bit of a holdover from when I used to run a retail establishment and had to keep inventory... also the fact that I spend so much friggin' time analyzing numbers and statistics at work that this is just an exercise for me.

My poor, poor right brain is generally dominant and is bored by these things my left brain makes it sit through.  Fortunately, my system didn't take too long to put into play and now that I own a home I have better things to do than fuss with it too much. 

I protest too much!
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Quoting northbloke:
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Apologies in advice if this sounds insulting, it's not meant to be, but can I ask why you count?

Because my familly and friends think I spend too much money on dvd... I like to tell them exactly how many I own to show them it isn't that much, but after they think I'm crazy...
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Quoting goblinsdoitall:
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My count is quite easy:
DVD -> 1 per movie
Box-Sets (movie) -> 1 per movie (as long as they are on separate discs, or at least sides (for "flippers"), 0 for package.
TV-Shows -> 1 per Season box

I don't count any Bonus disc whatsoever, because I'm mainly interested in how many movies I own.

Agreed. Boxset MOVIES do not get counted in the box, the individual films do
OTOH TV Seasons (Box) get counted as one, individual Episodic discs do not
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