Welcome to the Invelos forums. Please read the forum rules before posting.

Read access to our public forums is open to everyone. To post messages, a free registration is required.

If you have an Invelos account, sign in to post.

    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Desktop Feature Requests Page: 1  Previous   Next
Ability to differentiate between BD+DVD and DVD+BD
Author Message
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorCharlieM
Registered Sept 5 2005
Registered: May 20, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
United States Posts: 2,934
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
If a package comes out with DVD listed as primary, then it should be the primary for profiler.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorVirusPil
uncredited
Registered: January 1, 2009
Reputation: Highest Rating
Germany Posts: 3,087
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Are there combos with DVD as primary?
How are we telling which is the primary?
 Last edited: by VirusPil
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTaro
Registered: February 23, 2009
Reputation: High Rating
Belgium Posts: 1,580
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting VirusPil:
Quote:
Are there combos with DVD as primary?
How are we telling which is the primary?

I think what Charlie has in mind (correct me if I'm wrong), is those few cases where Disney issues the same bundle but with two different cases:
- BD case where the DVD is the 'bonus disc' so to speak
- DVD case where the BD is the 'bonus disc' so to speak

I think this is a good example:

BD Version:


DVD Version:


Personally; I'm more in favor of always keeping the newer format (BD) as the parent and the older format (DVD) as the child profile
Blu-ray collection
DVD collection
My Games
My Trophies
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAddicted2DVD
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 17,334
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I agree with Charlie on this one... if the package clearly shows the DVD to be the primary... then the profile should show the same.
Pete
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorVirusPil
uncredited
Registered: January 1, 2009
Reputation: Highest Rating
Germany Posts: 3,087
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Many Thanks for the example. Never seen this.

I think the newer format should always be taken as parent.
I could imagine there will be some argueing about what is primary and I don't think we need more argueing.

This also something that could be changed easily local. (if the DVD child exists)
So imho less pro than con.
 Last edited: by VirusPil
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
Alien with an attitude
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 13,202
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting VirusPil:
Quote:
I think the newer format should always be taken as parent.

Yea, I can't go along with that.  In my opinion, we should always profile it the way it is sold.
Quote:
I could imagine there will be some argueing about what is primary and I don't think we need more argueing.

I am not sure where the argument would come from as it is quite clear, at least on the sets I have seen, which is primary...one says Blu-ray + DVD and the other says DVD + Blu-ray.

Edited for typo.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
 Last edited: by TheMadMartian
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAddicted2DVD
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 17,334
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Agree with the Martian. 
Pete
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorrusty640
Registered: July 7, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 43
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Agree with the Martian. 
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorVirusPil
uncredited
Registered: January 1, 2009
Reputation: Highest Rating
Germany Posts: 3,087
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
After a closer look:
Perhaps I don't understand the feature request, because both media types are treated equal in a combo in DVDP.

The only difference is the optional child profile, which is clearly ruled (Perhaps this should be a not a feature request, but a rule change request):
Quote:
Sets containing the same film on multiple media types (such as a Blu-ray/DVD combo pack) are to be entered as a normal profile for the main media type (Blu-ray in this example), with all included media types checked. A combo which includes HD media (HD-DVD, Blu-ray) as well as DVD should use the details from the HD media in the main profile. However, you may add an additional profile by Disc ID for the DVD content and add this profile to the Box Set contents for the Blu-ray profile.


Perhaps I should wait until I understand the feature request before writing more. 

Edit: Ok, I think I now I have it.    It is because the program treats both ways equal and that's what should be changed.
Edit2: How should this be done? What are your ideas?
 Last edited: by VirusPil
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorVirusPil
uncredited
Registered: January 1, 2009
Reputation: Highest Rating
Germany Posts: 3,087
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting TheMadMartian:
Quote:
Quoting VirusPil:
Quote:
I could imagine there will be some argueing about what is primary and I don't think we need more argueing.

I am not sure where the argument would come from as it is quite clear, at least on the sets I have seen, which is primary...one says Blu-ray + DVD and the other says DVD + Blu-ray.

In such cases it's clear because of the sequence of the words. Hmm, but is this clear enough or just mere chance.

What to do with the versions don't have media types on cover? Always HD as primary?!
What to do with versions which have different cuts on different media types?

I may be wrong, but I could imagine some users will find more than enough reasons to argue.
Or I'm just very pessimistic.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorscotthm
Registered: March 20, 2007
Reputation: Great Rating
United States Posts: 2,851
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting TheMadMartian:
Quote:
In my opinion, we should always profile it the way it is sold.

Agreed.

---------------
    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Desktop Feature Requests Page: 1  Previous   Next